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please, could you share your config file for compiling 2.5.
I'm looking for the best setting file for my config :

-Intel Core 2 Quad CPU Q6600 @2.4 GHz; 8 MB L2 cache (http://www.intel.com/products/processor/core2quad/index.htm)
-Vista 32bits
-4gb ram
-Nvidia Geforce 9800 GX2

I'm sorry if it bother you, it's really hard to find good and easy information about that.

thx

Hi,

What config file are you talking about? All important optimization flags are listed in the build info.

Your CPU doesn't support SSE4.1 but you can use SSE2 builds. (The additional performance in a special SSE3 build is insignificant.)

I was talking about user-config.py, aren't you using one ?

I don't really understand the flags though, not sure what every one does, but for sure I'd like to compile the best optimized build with openMP enable and LargeAddressAware if possible

thank you

Here is a slightly modified version of the user-config I'm using for SSE4.1 builds:
http://www.miikahweb.com/other/user-config_highopti.py

I think you can just remove the SSE4 flag. About LAA, I'm not sure whether it works that way or not. (It's not stated in build description so... ;p)

Hey thx man that's really nice of you !
this is the error I got :

scons: Building targets ...
Compiling ==> 'AUD_Buffer.cpp'
cc1plus.exe: error: invalid option `ssse3'
cc1plus.exe: error: unrecognized command line option "-fopenmp"
cc1plus.exe: error: unrecognized command line option "-fopenmp"
cc1plus.exe: error: unrecognized command line option "-fopenmp"
intern\audaspace\intern\AUD_Buffer.cpp:1: error: bad value (core2) for -march= switch
intern\audaspace\intern\AUD_Buffer.cpp:1: error: bad value (core2) for -mtune= switch
scons: *** [C:\blender\build\win32-mingw\intern\audaspace\intern\AUD_Buffer.o] Error 1
scons: building terminated because of errors.

OpenMP is only supported in GCC 4.2 or later. Same thing with ssse3 and core2 settings.

You can download a MinGW that uses the newest GCC (4.4.1) here:
http://www.tdragon.net/recentgcc/
(Bundled Installer)

You might have to reinstall SCONS to use this new MinGW. However, compiling with older GCC 3.x should work without OpenMP, ssse3 and using -march/tune=generic instead of core2.

ok see, now YOU made my day !!! THANK YOU SO MUCH !
even I still don't understand all the flag though. it compile fine.
That's too bad we don't find too much information about that on the wiki.
You seem to manage this thing, you should write a doc for it on the wiki, I'm sure there is a lot of guy in my situation looking for more information about scons without having to read the doc, because I tried and when you don't know what you are looking for that kind of hard, plus knowing the difference between ccflag and cfflag, and which one goes with which O_O

anyway that was really nice though !

Thanks again

hi,
I've been trying to use those settings with blender 2.5 now, but I got error every time.
it is based on what you gave me before.
http://www.pasteall.org/9943/python
there is probably something there I shouldn't use anymore, but can't figure what :(, do you have any idea ?

it doesn't seems to like this line :

LLIBS = ['-lgomp', '-lpthread']

Do you have an X64 build for SSE 4.2?

Cheers.

Sorry but SSE4 isn't possible with VC++ compiler and that's the only 64-bit one I have.

Hi Miika,

When I try to set my domain cube to volume to get a smoke render using your recent Win-32 builds, Blender crashes.

Not so with the 27226 build from Blender.org.

Confirm?

Recently I started to have similiar issues too. Crashing when rendering. I believe it's a bug in current SVN.

However it doesn't crash if I set rendering "Display" to be "Image Editor" instead of default "Full Screen". Try if that works for you too.

Still crashes, without rendering.

Just assigning the volume material crashes out Blender.

Wire, Halo, and Surface material types are ok -- just not Volume.

In that case, no issues here. Changing material settings works perfectly. So can't help you.

But if you already haven't tried, you can try another build (sse2,sse4,x64). And also try extracting these builds to a new directory. (In case you extracted it over another build. Because old settings etc. can cause issues.)

Hi Miikah, thanks for your build, now i understand pretty well why you cannot compile an X64 version of blender with sse4.2.

Actually i'm trying to compile myself with MinGW, i succeed, but you have a lot more performance than me when it is about smoke simulation.

Can you share your way of compiling blender? i've tried also MSVC Exoress 2008, but i don't get your results, can you explain a bit more (not a complete tutorial, only the key things, no matter if it's with MinGW (now i'm trying to compile with the compiler you posted, TDM-GCC and with your user-config.py but i don't get your results, instead i get the error 0xc00000005 everytime i try to run blender.exe)

Thanks for your help, compiling blender is great and very exciting for me :)

Cheers.

@Juang3d

There is really nothing to share with my settings. I'm currently compiling with MSVS 2008 using default settings. You should note that MSVC Express doesn't support OpenMP so that's most likely the reason your build is slower.

And about MinGW builds: I don't do those anymore because MinGW always had strange errors, especially when updating MinGW / GCC version. That error you mentioned appeared after GCC 4.5.0. Yet it was actually slower than Visual C++.

So it's better to build with MSVC 2008 than with MinGW in the latest version?

Ok, i'll try, do you use CMake? and do you use some optimization settings like large addres or something?

I tried to use optimizations with CMake, but i'm not sure where to put it (also cpu optimizations like match:core2 and such things) maybe is not possible or is not needed, thanks for your help, i'm new to this :)

Also thanks for working in one of the most needed features of blender fluid simulations, wetmaps! knowing that you are working on this are great news!!

Thanks!

Cheers.

"So it's better to build with MSVC 2008 than with MinGW in the latest version?"

If you have other VC than the limited "express" one then it's faster.

However, you can always try earlier MinGW version (GCC 4.4) from TDM: http://sourceforge.net/downloads/tdm-gcc/
It should work without that "0xc00000005" error. :)

I had no luck with the GCC 4.4 compilation, i'm not able to make tdm-gcc 4.4.1 working i don't know why, but i have a MSVC Express 2008 working perfectly, it's a shame that it does not support x64 or OpenMP :p and it's too expensive to acquire a license only for that (800€), so i'll stick with this until GCC 4.5 is working, i hope it's soon.

Cheers and thanks for your help :)

Juang3d: I have already forwarded your report to Genscher and it will be fixed when it will be. I don't know how to fix it.

And I hid your comment because this isn't right place to report bugs. Use email next time.

Ok, sorry for the inconvenience.

Where should i post bugs, so i can post by myself?

Thanks for reporting it.

Cheers.

Juang3d:
The official way to report bugs is Blender Bug Tracker: http://projects.blender.org/tracker/index.php?group_id=9.

But don't expect it to be fast. :p

One more time, thanks.

It seems that there is a bigger bug there, the material editor is not working for me, no matters if it's a MinGW build or a MSVC build.

I'll wait until this is solved :)

Cheers.

I was lucky, thanks for reporting the bug, it's already solved in revision 30948 :D

I'm happy!!!

Cheers.

Hey Miikah,

1st of all if have to say THANK YOU!
Your builds are GREAT and you works are pretty amazing!
I tryed your fire-tutorial and its realy great! Works also fine with your "turbolence"-mod.
I´d like too see an atomic-bomb tutorial from you.
With preasure wave :)

Hello Mr. MiikaH.
Do you have a Linux version?
I am no good compiling, can you do a tutorial about that?
All I want is to test the new SmallLuxGPU from LuxRay.
And it would be cool to have it optimized for my CPU or system overall.

Hello I was interested in your smoke patch Andrew refers to yours as being a good one. I just have not been able to find it. I bet you have already created something new to take it's place. Can you point me in the right direction?

Thanks

Evan

@Evan J

My smoke patch is already in Blender trunk SVN. So you don't need a patch anymore, just get a recent build.

Hi MiikaH,

I have to say, Dynamic Paint looks awesome. I run a wedding band mostly, but I've been dabbling in blender and doing live videos for my originals band... Anyway, I digress...

I was wondering the same as the fellow above, about whether there's a build for linux available of your dynamic paint. I completely love the idea, and really hope this patch gets adopted into the trunk!

Cheers,

Mike

There seems to be one 64-bit Linux build on GraphicAll.org. But because I rarely use Linux, I'm not gonna build those myself.

Hello.
I am embarrassed because it doesn't take the following error though it tries to mount your made DynamicPaint.
Thank you very much if there is advice.
It questions with the translation software because English is inexperienced and pardon here, please.

MY Environment:
WindowsXP SP3
VisualC++2008ExpressEdition
Blender Source (Base):2.54b Release Source
2010-09-27 SVN Download
-->Error Message
rna_rna.lib(rna_object_gen.obj) : error LNK2001: "_RNA_DynamicPaintCanvasSettings"
rna_rna.lib(rna_modifier_gen.obj) : error LNK2001: "_RNA_DynamicPaintCanvasSettings"
rna_rna.lib(rna_modifier_gen.obj) : error LNK2001: "_RNA_DynamicPaintPainterSettings"
..\..\..\install\msvc_9\blender.exe : fatal error LNK1120:

I'm sorry.
It was possible to solve it for myself.
It did because of the thing that rna_dynamicpaint_gen.c generated with RNA was not added to the project.
It fired.

Hello.
DynamicPaint can be mounted, and it tries variously.
It uses it can the color be moved from Canvas to Canvas though it thought?
For instance, the handkerchief becomes dirty when wiping it with the handkerchief in mud as for the dirty face.

The icon registration of Modifier window has come off.

Hi, I'm trying to apply your 1.08 patch to trunk r32964, but since I have never applied a patch before I might be doing something wrong: the build fails because of these 4 errors:

bf_editor_physics.lib(physics_ops.obj) : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol _DPAINT_OT_bake referenced in function _operatortypes_dynamicpaint
bf_modifiers.lib(MOD_util.obj) : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _modifierType_DynamicPaint
bf_rna.lib(rna_modifier_gen.obj) : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol _dynamicPaint_Modifier_createType referenced in function _rna_DynamicPaint_set_type
bf_rna.lib(rna_modifier_gen.obj) : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol _dynamicPaint_Modifier_free referenced in function _rna_DynamicPaint_set_type

(I'm using CMake with options: Buildinfo,FFMpeg,Install,MOD_Boolean,MOD_Decimate,MOD_Fluid,OpenMP,Python,Python_Install,RayOptimization)

Could you please give me a hint ?

Could you tell me if I have to compile the Blender on my own to utilise milticore? I've downloaded an openmp svn version from graphicall several times, but it always uses only one core (have Quad Core). What should I do to enable openmp?

@Tom

It depends on what you are doing. Only some parts of Blender can utilize multiple cores, so even with OpenMP enabled build there are many tasks that simply use one core.

Things like smoke or dynamic paint can use multicores (through OpenMP) quite well, but you still shouldn't expect 100% CPU usage. :p

I've tried smoke sim, particle system and cloth sim. All of them used max 25% of my processor power. Thanks for quick response :)

Hi MikaH Thanks for your patch and work. Im noob in building and patching blender. So i patched copy of my blender svn with Tortoise svn and hi fetching some files to previous revision, so question can i update that patched copy with svn? Regards and Happy New Year

Hi MikaH i love your dynamic paint. is there any way to get a new OSX 64bit build
or instructions on how to add dynamic paint code to a new builds for mac thank you son much.

Guido, I posted an OSX 64 bit build here: http://graphicall.org/builds/builds/showbuild.php?action=show&id=1695

MiikaH, thanks for this wonderful patch!

simplemente gracias por el aporte!!!

Ihan kiva blogi on sulla tässä, sisältö tietysti mielenkiintoisin ja paras asia. =D Itsekkin olen Blenderiä ruvennut harjoittelemaan ja tehnytkin pari käyttökelpoista luomusta jo. :D Mites näin muuten, mistä päin Suomen maata ymsyms? (: Vastaa vaikka tonne mun blogii mikä on tos kotisivutilas - johonki vaa ni nään sit helposti (: Keep on the good work!

Morot MiikaH

I have compilen Wine in Ubuntu 10.10 - both 32 ja 64-bit.
Then i try to run blender in there.
Some serious problem with VC2008 runtime librarys.
Any idea to void these libraries.
I'am running rendering farm and window$ blender is only way.
Another problem is MESA errors. Blender loads some OpenGL code: blender -b scene.blend ... ... gives error about Mesa drivers.
Is it possible to compile blender totaly without GUI ???

Best regards

Aake / Finland

thanks for the builds, your dynamic paint patch is out of this world, really, hope to see it in the trunk, but if not, I always will come back and seek for your awesome builds...

thanks for your development.

Hi. This Dynamic Paint tool seem awesome. But alas I cant use it because it's only on Windows. Is it possible for you to build a blender 2.57b with both Dynamic Paint and Bmesh ? (Bmesh is already available for mac though) By the way is your vertex group painting tests going well enough for us to see it implemented in your Dynamic P tool anytime soon?

Thanks for all the time you're inversing on this ...and other projects -iWave- :)

Para cuando dynamic paint para osx?

Saludos desde Mexico

Thanks for your outstanding work!
BTW: Cycles r41844 did not work w. my Nvidia 9800GT + GPU,Cuda or OpenCL.

Best wishes,
G.

@Germanny

Blender officially supports GPUs with "compute capability" 1.3 or higher. (Atm. 1.3, 2.0 and 2.1)
http://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-gpus
Your card has 1.0. :p

It would be possible to enable CUDA for lower versions on my builds but that'd be slow and have some features disabled.

@Miika
Thx for the info!
Sad for me :/

It seems the link is broken for Trunk win 31 & 64.
Server not Found :(

I test Particles Nodes build !\nReally interesting ! Hope to see good progress with new nodes. Thanks for this build Mikaah !\n\nHere is simples tests I did :\n\nhttp://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?253332-My-first-Particles-Nodes-test